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New business. - 2008/04/25 08:51I made the leap. I am self employed again. I started a all organic landscaping business. Gives me an outlet for my castings.
The other benefit. Free lawn clippings and leaves lol.
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/25 10:58Best of luck. I started selling my ENCs to a few bait shops. Some have already sold. Its still early in the fishing season here in northern Ohio. I've been self employed for about 2 years (handyman, plumbing, HVAC) and would love nothing better to sell only worms. Much easier on the back and knees. Again, hope your business is a success!Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/25 11:25TY James. I would love to sell to bait shops... I am just starting landscaping business. I agree. Selling worms is much better. Excuse me bait lol.
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/25 12:03I started out with just two stores. Trying to ease into it slowly. I know the owners rather well and if I'm going to make mistakes, I'd rather do it with them. Hopefully once everything is going smoothly I can expand to other store, and would like to start selling red wrigglers, once their numbers increase.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/26 09:28James ty for the reply. I would like to pick your brain. My thoughts are untill I build up enuf stock. To use a couple suppliers to feed me enuf worms.
ENCS are the best worm in my opinion. How many do you cup and what are your prices??? PM if you like.
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/27 19:43I just put a dozen in a container and sell for $1.00 to the buisnesses. I was thinking of trying 2 dozen per and see how they sell. Like I said, its not quite fishing season yet, so I'll try it in a couple of weeks when the weather improves.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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wormherder
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/27 23:09i live in fl I sell best to convience stores yes a I have bait shops to but the shinner guys have the large red wiggler market wrapped up cause they are there selling shiners also try indepedent conv. stores cause heres how it works people need gas for boat soda for kids beer for them and ice for the cooler one stop shopping
36 cnt euros for 3.35 cup 24 cnt euros for 2.50 cup 18 cnt euros for 2.25 cup
sound like a lot but my market is tourist based plus you have to buy cups and lids and peat moss to put into cups and as hard as I have tried I cannt train the things to jump into cups also certain states regulate what kind of cups you can put them in my state doesnt but some states dont allow the styrofoam cups anymore which leaves an injection molded cup and lid plus the lid need some sort of air holes in it good luck look into this well big fines come with using the wrong container wormherder
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/28 10:13TY James And Wormherder. Last time I checked wich has been a while. Canadians were going for about 2.50 a dozen retail. May be more now. Ill have to check.
My thinking is 2 dozen for 1 dollar wholesale.
Have either of you checked into pet stores???
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AK Red Neck
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/28 13:55I was contacted last week by a bait shop here in Alaska seems the going rate for ENC is 15 for $4 (in cup with peet)Jeremy Sterling, Alaska
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/28 20:04Hey Red Neck are prices higher in alaska???
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AK Red Neck
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/28 22:02We usually pay more up here due to shipping costs. gallon of milk runs about $4, gas is at $3.99 for 87 octane.Jeremy Sterling, Alaska
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/04/29 07:11Thats a great price. I just dont know if it would go here. Thanks for the info.
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/11 11:15Hey Kyle, I saw where you stated earlier that you would want to have others supply you until your herd increased. Well, I tried that this week for my encs, since the fishing season is finally coming up. I ordered from a supplier, who has a great reputation on this and other forums. Most stated that the ones they recieved were very large and healthy. Well, they were healthy but most were quite ssmall. Luckily I have enough to get me through, I just bought extra as an insurance policy in case something happened. Just wanted to let you know not to rely on someone else for your needs. And actually, I had read that on these forums also. Guess I should have taken their advice.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/11 14:10Thanks Jim. Im so busy with other projects. I decided to start out slower this year. I follow what your stating. Thanks for the heads up.
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/11 14:14I actually just did a little research. I ordered from one site and the worms were drop shipped from another company. If I'd have known they were going to do that I never would have ordered them. I'm going to contact the them and let them know, even though the worms were healthy, that I wanted the worms from them, not someone else.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/12 23:08I know what you mean. Kind of makes me want to be a supplier!!!! Light bulb going off lol.
I am going to spend this year building up my herd.
Thanks for your input.
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/13 08:27I'd like to supply too. Gonna start small, same as bait. I have a web site made, but I know it'll be a long time before I can put it up. I've seen some larger suppliers run out of stock. Don't want that to happen.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/13 19:21Exactly. I would think 1 year will make all the differance.
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wormherder
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/19 21:28after 1 year you will be screaming I didnt think this through I need a lot more room That seems to be my biggest problem is space after all it does take a while to get them to grow big enough to cup, I have about 15 stores and I cant keep my own supply growing fast enough to supply stores cause you want the babies you have to stick around long enough to lay eggs themselves other wise you are back to getting from a supplier again but dont get discouraged be very creative with your space......
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/20 08:22Thankyou wormherder. I have a attached 1 car garage. I can dedicate all this space. I am looking at insulation right now. The floor to ceiling space is 10 foot. A very big space.
When I run out of room. There are all kinds of empty wharehouses in my area. When and if I get that big??
Im also exploring selling to wholesalers. How many pounds do you think i need to build up to???
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jlance
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/20 09:14wormherder what is bait size?full grown or can you use little bigger than adult?what is your estimate time to bait size?how many do put in cup?hope you don't mind me askingheal the earth with worm farming. John Lance Indain Valley,virginia
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/20 11:20I don't have any problem with space either. Basement and 2 garages. Will probably insulate on garage in the winter and use it next year when needed. As far as the bait size, I take the adults and put them in a bin without and young ones. When not extended they are about 5 to 6 inches long and probably just a little smaller than the diameter of a pencil. I feed them horse manure and chicken lay mash. I have heard the mash has too much salt in it, but have had no problems with it in the last 6 months.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/20 20:05James how many pounds do you have on hand??? What do you think I should build up to???
I was thinking at least 1000 pounds..
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jamesgang
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/21 08:45Kyle, I'm not 100% sure how many pounds of each type worm I have. I know I have enough ENCs to supply the two bait shop I'm selling to. At the end of the summer, I'm going to see exactly what I have and how many more I'll need for next year. The red wrigglers will be sold when I have at least 1000 pounds.Jim Norwalk, Ohio
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Kyle
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Re:New business. - 2008/05/21 09:37James im just doing encs. I know they multiplie slower. Im thinking at least 1000 pounds. Before I can go big.
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